Comments on: Apple quietly adds 3.33GHz quad-core Mac Pro to keep up with iMac, but fails to match value http://macosrumors.com/2009/12/05/apple-adds-333ghz-quad-pro/ The original Apple & Mac rumor site Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: cutthroughthebs http://macosrumors.com/2009/12/05/apple-adds-333ghz-quad-pro/comment-page-1/#comment-2703 cutthroughthebs Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:04:34 +0000 http://macosrumors.com/?p=1418#comment-2703 There is NO comparison! For audio and video pros the iMac falls flat on it's face! No PCIe or any HD storage options... no, not even a contender! There is NO comparison! For audio and video pros the iMac falls flat on it's face! No PCIe or any HD storage options… no, not even a contender!

]]> By: cutthroughthebs http://macosrumors.com/2009/12/05/apple-adds-333ghz-quad-pro/comment-page-1/#comment-2642 cutthroughthebs Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:04:34 +0000 http://macosrumors.com/?p=1418#comment-2642 There is NO comparison! For audio and video pros the iMac falls flat on it's face! No PCIe or any HD storage options... no, not even a contender! There is NO comparison! For audio and video pros the iMac falls flat on it's face! No PCIe or any HD storage options… no, not even a contender!

]]> By: Captain Obvious http://macosrumors.com/2009/12/05/apple-adds-333ghz-quad-pro/comment-page-1/#comment-2748 Captain Obvious Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:57:00 +0000 http://macosrumors.com/?p=1418#comment-2748 Give us a break with blaming Intel for the awkward price/performance of the Mac Pros. Apple did the same thing before the Intel switch, although the disparity wasn't quite so severe, and they even threw a bone to reason back in the G3 and G4 tower days, but by the time the G5 era came to an end the towers were pretty poorly priced. It is way more likely the other way around, that Apple is in the driver seat and able to secure early access and better pricing on the best Xeon CPUs as a reward for featuring them in premium products. If Apple decided to build towers around desktop Core i7s there's no way Intel would stop them, because they can just buy the CPUs they want like every other OEM. Using Xeons in the Pro models is surely dictated by marketing and branding concerns, as it is only the unit cost of the Xeon CPUs that makes a (weak) argument for the Pro machines' absurd pricing. They end up looking like reasonable deals if you price out the cost of all the parts (with the uber-expensive Xeons putting the BoM into the stratosphere) but compared to a regular desktop i5 or i7 rig the Pros are just dumb. Apple has simply decided not to have ANY overlap between iMac and Mac Pro pricing, and with the current iMac lineup going up to $1999 it means there will not be a Mac tower under $2000 irrespective of how poorly it compares to an iMac or $1000 PC in price/performance. Give us a break with blaming Intel for the awkward price/performance of the Mac Pros. Apple did the same thing before the Intel switch, although the disparity wasn’t quite so severe, and they even threw a bone to reason back in the G3 and G4 tower days, but by the time the G5 era came to an end the towers were pretty poorly priced. It is way more likely the other way around, that Apple is in the driver seat and able to secure early access and better pricing on the best Xeon CPUs as a reward for featuring them in premium products. If Apple decided to build towers around desktop Core i7s there’s no way Intel would stop them, because they can just buy the CPUs they want like every other OEM.

Using Xeons in the Pro models is surely dictated by marketing and branding concerns, as it is only the unit cost of the Xeon CPUs that makes a (weak) argument for the Pro machines’ absurd pricing. They end up looking like reasonable deals if you price out the cost of all the parts (with the uber-expensive Xeons putting the BoM into the stratosphere) but compared to a regular desktop i5 or i7 rig the Pros are just dumb. Apple has simply decided not to have ANY overlap between iMac and Mac Pro pricing, and with the current iMac lineup going up to $1999 it means there will not be a Mac tower under $2000 irrespective of how poorly it compares to an iMac or $1000 PC in price/performance.

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