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	<title>Comments on: Mac OS X 10.6 &#8220;Snow Leopard&#8221; &#8211; First Sneak Peek</title>
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		<title>By: Will Mac OS X 10.6 &#8220;Snow Leopard&#8221; really support PowerPC?! &#124; Mac OS Rumors</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-2/#comment-1450</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Mac OS X 10.6 &#8220;Snow Leopard&#8221; really support PowerPC?! &#124; Mac OS Rumors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] since we posted our first &#8217;sneak peek&#8217; at Mac OS X 10.6 &#8220;Snow Leopard&#8221; two weeks ago, one of the most frequent questions and lingering doubts amongst readers surrounds [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since we posted our first &#8217;sneak peek&#8217; at Mac OS X 10.6 &#8220;Snow Leopard&#8221; two weeks ago, one of the most frequent questions and lingering doubts amongst readers surrounds [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan C. Meader</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-2/#comment-1449</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan C. Meader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internal builds we&#039;ve worked with have (and continue to) support PowerPC but there are increasing signs that the final version may not.

Notably, as you&#039;ve said, recent limited-seed developers builds don&#039;t appear to include the PPC code and simply refuse to install on non-Intel Macs.

Although the unique nature of Mac OS X&#039;s architecture and its underlying technologies allows multiple hardware platforms to be supported with far less effort on Apple&#039;s part that would be required, for example, to port Linux or Windows to another CPU/platform....at the end of the day, debugging and providing support for such a fundamentally different platform that hasn&#039;t been an active part of Apple&#039;s hardware products for three years is holding Mac OS X back.

From what our sources tell us, it&#039;s still possible that the PowerPC build of Snow Leopard could be finished with surprisingly minimal effort on the part of its developers....the code isn&#039;t the problem. It&#039;s the attention Apple&#039;s developers have to pay to a legacy platform that they haven&#039;t used in years, when they could be re-learning and shifting their focus purely to Intel development. It&#039;s the support costs, far larger install packages, and greater complexity in stripping down a triple-platform (ARM, Intel, PowerPC) OS versus a two-platform system. Also, many of the remaining RISC (PPC/ARM etc) specialists at Apple are now mostly focused on the iDevice variant of Snow Leopard.

All that said, it&#039;s still possible that the developer seeds are Intel-only because the vast majority of changes that require debugging by third party developers are Intel-specific. Keep in mind that a number of Snow Leopard&#039;s features, including the Cocoa Finder, aren&#039;t present in the current developer seed as we reported above.

While there&#039;s a certain lack of clarity on this issue from an internal perspective when asking developers at Infinite Loop about the issue....and Apple hasn&#039;t made any clear public statements on the issue of PowerPC support in Snow Leopard....we think it could end up being the case that the grapevine is right; 10.6 could be released as an Intel-only build.

This is supported by the fact that developers will most likely be able to deploy Universal Binary applications across both 10.5 Leopard &amp; 10.6 Snow Leopard without the backwards-compatibility issues that plagued the 10.4-to-10.5 (Tiger to Leopard) transition. Thusly, while PowerPC Mac owners would be shut out of Snow Leopard&#039;s benefits, they wouldn&#039;t have to miss out on applications that have been optimized to support Mac OS X 10.6&#039;s unique features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internal builds we&#8217;ve worked with have (and continue to) support PowerPC but there are increasing signs that the final version may not.</p>
<p>Notably, as you&#8217;ve said, recent limited-seed developers builds don&#8217;t appear to include the PPC code and simply refuse to install on non-Intel Macs.</p>
<p>Although the unique nature of Mac OS X&#8217;s architecture and its underlying technologies allows multiple hardware platforms to be supported with far less effort on Apple&#8217;s part that would be required, for example, to port Linux or Windows to another CPU/platform&#8230;.at the end of the day, debugging and providing support for such a fundamentally different platform that hasn&#8217;t been an active part of Apple&#8217;s hardware products for three years is holding Mac OS X back.</p>
<p>From what our sources tell us, it&#8217;s still possible that the PowerPC build of Snow Leopard could be finished with surprisingly minimal effort on the part of its developers&#8230;.the code isn&#8217;t the problem. It&#8217;s the attention Apple&#8217;s developers have to pay to a legacy platform that they haven&#8217;t used in years, when they could be re-learning and shifting their focus purely to Intel development. It&#8217;s the support costs, far larger install packages, and greater complexity in stripping down a triple-platform (ARM, Intel, PowerPC) OS versus a two-platform system. Also, many of the remaining RISC (PPC/ARM etc) specialists at Apple are now mostly focused on the iDevice variant of Snow Leopard.</p>
<p>All that said, it&#8217;s still possible that the developer seeds are Intel-only because the vast majority of changes that require debugging by third party developers are Intel-specific. Keep in mind that a number of Snow Leopard&#8217;s features, including the Cocoa Finder, aren&#8217;t present in the current developer seed as we reported above.</p>
<p>While there&#8217;s a certain lack of clarity on this issue from an internal perspective when asking developers at Infinite Loop about the issue&#8230;.and Apple hasn&#8217;t made any clear public statements on the issue of PowerPC support in Snow Leopard&#8230;.we think it could end up being the case that the grapevine is right; 10.6 could be released as an Intel-only build.</p>
<p>This is supported by the fact that developers will most likely be able to deploy Universal Binary applications across both 10.5 Leopard &#038; 10.6 Snow Leopard without the backwards-compatibility issues that plagued the 10.4-to-10.5 (Tiger to Leopard) transition. Thusly, while PowerPC Mac owners would be shut out of Snow Leopard&#8217;s benefits, they wouldn&#8217;t have to miss out on applications that have been optimized to support Mac OS X 10.6&#8242;s unique features.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizhou</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-2/#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizhou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>\100% 64-bit….still runs fine on first-generation 32-bit Core 1 processors as well as 32-bit PowerPC G4 CPUs, but is the first major OS release to not only support 64-bit but to utilize it from stem to stern.\

A friend of mine just tried to install on a 1.8 GHz G5, and the installer just says that it is an unsupported architecture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>\100% 64-bit….still runs fine on first-generation 32-bit Core 1 processors as well as 32-bit PowerPC G4 CPUs, but is the first major OS release to not only support 64-bit but to utilize it from stem to stern.\</p>
<p>A friend of mine just tried to install on a 1.8 GHz G5, and the installer just says that it is an unsupported architecture.</p>
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		<title>By: KingKovifor (Jeremy)</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-2/#comment-1261</link>
		<dc:creator>KingKovifor (Jeremy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/Floris&quot;&gt;@Floris&lt;/a&gt;: RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/macosrumors&quot;&gt;@macosrumors&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/Scobleizer&quot;&gt;@Scobleizer&lt;/a&gt; : Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek - http://macosrumors.com/?p=578 #Xerces  &lt;-- sweet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/Floris">@Floris</a>: RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/macosrumors">@macosrumors</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/Scobleizer">@Scobleizer</a> : Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek &#8211; <a href="http://macosrumors.com/?p=578" rel="nofollow">http://macosrumors.com/?p=578</a> #Xerces  <&#8211; sweet</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle Millander</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-2/#comment-1259</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyle Millander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>\till runs fine on first-generation 32-bit Core 1 processors as well as 32-bit PowerPC G4 CPUs\

Does PPC support really exist for 10.6? That&#039;s big news if accurate. Does that also mean 64-bit support on the G5?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>\till runs fine on first-generation 32-bit Core 1 processors as well as 32-bit PowerPC G4 CPUs\</p>
<p>Does PPC support really exist for 10.6? That&#8217;s big news if accurate. Does that also mean 64-bit support on the G5?</p>
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		<title>By: wbaccus (Winston)</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-1/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>wbaccus (Winston)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good preview of OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard) on macosrumors: http://macosrumors.com/?p=578 May be the best OSX release yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good preview of OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard) on macosrumors: <a href="http://macosrumors.com/?p=578" rel="nofollow">http://macosrumors.com/?p=578</a> May be the best OSX release yet.</p>
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		<title>By: MacExpat (MacExpat)</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-1/#comment-1249</link>
		<dc:creator>MacExpat (MacExpat)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/macosrumors&quot;&gt;@macosrumors&lt;/a&gt; As promised: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek! http://macosrumors.com/?p=578 #MacOSRumors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/macosrumors">@macosrumors</a> As promised: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek! <a href="http://macosrumors.com/?p=578" rel="nofollow">http://macosrumors.com/?p=578</a> #MacOSRumors</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Sporleder</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-1/#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sporleder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I understanding your article correctly that minimum system requirements for 10.6 will be similar to 10.5, i.e., supporting a G4 867 minimum? Most of the rumor mill speculation elsewhere seems to imply that 10.6 will require an Intel processor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I understanding your article correctly that minimum system requirements for 10.6 will be similar to 10.5, i.e., supporting a G4 867 minimum? Most of the rumor mill speculation elsewhere seems to imply that 10.6 will require an Intel processor.</p>
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		<title>By: Floris (Floris Fiedeldij Dop)</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-1/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Floris (Floris Fiedeldij Dop)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/macosrumors&quot;&gt;@macosrumors&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/Scobleizer&quot;&gt;@Scobleizer&lt;/a&gt; : Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek - http://macosrumors.com/?p=578 #Xerces  &lt;-- sweet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/macosrumors">@macosrumors</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/Scobleizer">@Scobleizer</a> : Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek &#8211; <a href="http://macosrumors.com/?p=578" rel="nofollow">http://macosrumors.com/?p=578</a> #Xerces  <&#8211; sweet</p>
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		<title>By: chrishumphries (ChristopherHumphries)</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-1/#comment-1239</link>
		<dc:creator>chrishumphries (ChristopherHumphries)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/macosrumors&quot;&gt;@macosrumors&lt;/a&gt;: As promised: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek! http://macosrumors.com/?p=578 #MacOSRumors #SnowLeopard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/macosrumors">@macosrumors</a>: As promised: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek! <a href="http://macosrumors.com/?p=578" rel="nofollow">http://macosrumors.com/?p=578</a> #MacOSRumors #SnowLeopard</p>
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		<title>By: Jako</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-1/#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>Jako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*100% 64-bit….still runs fine on first-generation 32-bit Core 1 processors as well as 32-bit PowerPC G4 CPUs

Are you sure it still runs on G4-processors? I doubt it (same with G5)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*100% 64-bit….still runs fine on first-generation 32-bit Core 1 processors as well as 32-bit PowerPC G4 CPUs</p>
<p>Are you sure it still runs on G4-processors? I doubt it (same with G5)</p>
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		<title>By: pjaficionado (Jason Wright)</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjaficionado (Jason Wright)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/PabloMac&quot;&gt;@PabloMac&lt;/a&gt; RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/macosrumors&quot;&gt;@macosrumors&lt;/a&gt;: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek! http://macosrumors.com/?p=578 - LOVE THIS SITE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/PabloMac">@PabloMac</a> RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/macosrumors">@macosrumors</a>: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek! <a href="http://macosrumors.com/?p=578" rel="nofollow">http://macosrumors.com/?p=578</a> &#8211; LOVE THIS SITE!</p>
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		<title>By: PabloMac (Paul Tannahill)</title>
		<link>http://macosrumors.com/2009/02/10/macosx-106-snow-leopard-1st-peek/comment-page-1/#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>PabloMac (Paul Tannahill)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/macosrumors&quot;&gt;@macosrumors&lt;/a&gt;: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek! http://macosrumors.com/?p=578</description>
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		<title>By: gusfalconi (Gus Falconi)</title>
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		<dc:creator>gusfalconi (Gus Falconi)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/macosrumors&quot;&gt;@macosrumors&lt;/a&gt; As promised: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard First Sneak Peek! http://macosrumors.com/?p=578</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fair point....ultimately, however, Snow Leopard isn&#039;t about visual glitter or feature lists. We do expect to have more &quot;really new&quot; information fairly soon as the Cocoa Finder and Marble/Granite interface are fully integrated, as well as other new elements such as the revamped installation movie....but even then, the real show-stoppers about the 10.6 experience are, quite simply, the things that Apple has already publicly acknowledged; Grand Central, OpenCL, QuickTime X.

We will be able to detail some as-yet unreported features &amp; other details about QTX soon, and we think that will be some fairly exciting stuff....but the Snow Leopard story is, ultimately, about performance and consolidating gains made with the iDevices/AppleTV. &quot;Innovation&quot; as we usually think of it will have to wait for Mac OS X 10.7 presently code-named Lion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fair point&#8230;.ultimately, however, Snow Leopard isn&#8217;t about visual glitter or feature lists. We do expect to have more &#8220;really new&#8221; information fairly soon as the Cocoa Finder and Marble/Granite interface are fully integrated, as well as other new elements such as the revamped installation movie&#8230;.but even then, the real show-stoppers about the 10.6 experience are, quite simply, the things that Apple has already publicly acknowledged; Grand Central, OpenCL, QuickTime X.</p>
<p>We will be able to detail some as-yet unreported features &amp; other details about QTX soon, and we think that will be some fairly exciting stuff&#8230;.but the Snow Leopard story is, ultimately, about performance and consolidating gains made with the iDevices/AppleTV. &#8220;Innovation&#8221; as we usually think of it will have to wait for Mac OS X 10.7 presently code-named Lion.</p>
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