Comments on: Apple seeds 10.5.2 build 9C23; massive 500MB

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:32:19 +0000

I don’t think bandwidth is an issue.. Honestly, who can’t steal a WiFi connection somewhere that has high speed access if they can’t get it at home? This is 2008 after all..

By: jimmy

jimmy — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:42:57 +0000

I always download & burn the 10.x.x.x Combined updaters anyway…

By: Plugs 'N Pixels

Plugs 'N Pixels — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:04:46 +0000

IT folks such as myself should think about doing only one download and locally applying it to the rest of the computers using Apple Remote Desktop. It would be a crazy strain on everyone’s bandwidth to do individual downloads for each machine in multiple labs or offices!

By: Ken

Ken — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:31:03 +0000

It’s not that large. Apple is doing HD rentals now (or will be soon). Compared to that, half-a-gig is small. Apple should make it available the usual way (through Software Update), and for those with lower bandwidth, make an update CD or DVD to give away for free at the Apple Stores. Don’t charge for it, since the reason it’s so large is Apple’s mistake. When Apple released Mac OS X 10.1, it gave away free update CDs at MacWorld and at the stores for the early adopters who paid for Mac OS X 10.0.

By: Greg

Greg — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:10:25 +0000

500MB is large! But if Apple can’t handle that then they should not be involved with movie rentals at all! I just hope it doesn’t auto download during my peak time… I don’t want to eat into my peak cap. (then again – iTunes music is quota free and it seems Apple updates might be too.)

I would like to see a Bittorrent-like download solution combined with the local Akamai servers. IF they can take the pressure off the internet backbone by using only nearby peers (and Akamai) that’d be great. They could even offer a rebate for people willing to upload.

By: Siemova

Siemova — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:16:21 +0000

Well, if they used BT for software updates, it could work pretty much like Blizzard Entertainment’s game patches, where Apple would serve them but other users would share as well to decrease the load on their servers and speed things up for everyone. The end user wouldn’t even have to see anything different.

By the way, MacRumors, I’d like to request that you disable the automatic page refresh, at least on article pages. It’s frustrating to have the page refresh while you’re in the middle of commenting.

By: admin

admin — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:38:18 +0000

Yeah, Rumors actually was one of the first to report on the “BitTorrent in Leopard” stories…..turns out the project wasn’t really coupled to Leopard, and it’s actually part of a “P2P Alternative” project that Apple is working on with its TV/Film/Music industry partners to distribute free content directly between Mac users, using the “BitTorrent-like” technology to help users find the closest/fastest peer(s) to grab a given file from.

We think we’ll be hearing more about this technology when Apple finally announces its major overhaul of .Mac — a full story on this is coming up soon. One really interesting rumor, which we hope is true but haven’t been able to confirm: .Mac may split into “free” and “premium/VIP” versions so that Apple can entice customers with nifty .Mac tools & services, get them used to them, and have an attractive set of enhancements/extras for a much better value package than today’s dot-Mac.

We can dream…..but hopefully, this particular rumor is more than just a dream.

By: Ash

Ash — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:19:15 +0000

Bittorent? It would never get delivered, you need a LOT of machines for that to work, right? Despite all this seeming success, Macs are still a very small percentage of computers. Just download the update directly and share to each Mac, then you get it quickly!

By: PIF

PIF — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:15:45 +0000

There was a rumor once upon a time that APPL was going to have some bittorrent-like function built into 10.5
FWIW

By: What's the frequency, Kenneth?

What's the frequency, Kenneth? — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:22:37 +0000

No kidding! Thanks for the update. I’ve been waiting for 10.5.2 ever since 10.5.1 came out so quickly (I never install a .0 and rarely a .1.)

One word for Apple regarding their conundrum: bittorrent.

You’d think system updates would be a perfect application of bittorrent technology. They should at least offer downloads as torrents, even if they haven’t figured out how to use the model for the control panel. I’d happily use bittorrent to update the family’s Macs (I support three households) if given the opportunity.

By: crosseyed

crosseyed — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:21:58 +0000

I would like to see the CD personally or break it into multiple packages. I know many people that couldn’t begin to download a 300 plus MB update. It can easily take 2 days time to download 150MB with speed download. Without such a program downloading a file that size is futile when it come to dial up and the frequent disconnect interruptions.

By: Entasis

Entasis — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:10:43 +0000

Yes, thanks for the information as I have put my hopes for 10.5.2 on the side lines. Apple is having major growing pains, and it is starting to show. I would much rather receive OS updates based upon what I truly use versus what Apple wants to stuff in regarding all their venues. The more successful Apple becomes—the more it is starting to look and act like others that most Apple users do not like.

By: steve

steve — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:06:08 +0000

Distribution bandwidth isn’t going to be a real problem for something like this, akamai and the other content networks can handle this with ease.

But they should still distribute it other ways for people with limited bandwidth. For instance people with hard caps who must watch how much the download per month.

By: Siemova

Siemova — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:12:14 +0000

Thanks for this! Last I heard from the other rumor sites, 10.5.2 was probably coming Any Day Now. But when that got pushed back, none of them said anything. What I appreciate most about you guys is that you often fill in the blanks.